youre gonna want to sit down for this
things werent publicly owned during the bulk of the british empire
i know, shocking
turns out the only socialist party that have ever formed a government in the uk werent even founded until 1900
do you think british history is “british empire ft irish potato famine → modern britain”
yeah trade unions werent even legal until about 20 years after the irish potato famine
i was referring to between the post-war period until the devil incarnate was elected, where there was strong support for nationalisation, strong trade unions, heavy regulation, higher taxes, and an extensive welfare state (that period being the only period where you could say that the uk was quite socialist)
do even the slightest amount of research first please because i just cant be bothered dealing with you any more
That is NOT what I’m saying. I never said that the UK was socialist, never. Where did I ever mention in my posts, “The UK was socialist?” It’s not there because I don’t think that way. Please read it in context before assuming such BS. I was saying that the UK publicly owned things (which was a part of your argument), and that it was similar to socialism, not that it’s the same thing. They are not the same and that was never my claim. Please please please actually read it in context before twisting my words like this. Thank you.
i can't be fucked with this anymore
you’re saying victorian-era britain was socialist
read a book. literally just any book
So you’re resorting to insults now? That's not a good look ngl. Also, you mentioned the UK as an argument so we might as well refer to its past when it was originally called the British Empire, since that was the time when most of everything was owned publicly, and was used against the Irish, which is very similar to what we have in socialism and communism today. We don’t think the UK had socialism during the British Empire when it was in place, but what we do know is that they did publicly own things, and what does socialism promote? Public ownership of all goods and services by the government. You used the UK as an argument of how bad capitalism is, told me that I was scared to mention the UK, and then you used insults like stupid and muppet when I actually did mention them. That’s a really awful look and that proves your inability to argue your case well. Do better next time. Or better yet, really reflect on your view on socialism and compare it to what socialism really is, because if you think socialism will be a magical utopia where everyone’s basic needs will actually be met and everyone (including the poor) will be prosperous under socialism and its government without any exploitation from anyone, let me tell you this… you need a brutal reality check, because your view is the complete opposite of reality.