ok botting rules (subject to change, but effective immediately)

  • bots must be clearly labelled as such, and link to the maintainer’s account in the bio or something. in the future, there might be a bot label.

  • bots may not perform social actions such as: following, liking, reposting

  • bots may not post individual posts automatically, with the exception of “daily/weekly/monthly x” accounts, which can post a maximum of one post per day at a fixed time.

  • bots may not reply to posts/comments unless explicitly triggered:

  • bots must be triggered by @ mentions, or wall comments on the bot account’s wall.

  • bots should use the wasteof2 api (api.wasteof.money), as the beta api is subject to change and is designed for internal usage

  • bots should not poll my server too hard, try using the socket.io api to only perform actions once a mention message is received.

    • to do this, use a server side socket.io client, and listen for updateMessageCount events. when the count increases, request the unread message list and respond to new mention comments.

it is really cool to see all the unique ways that the api is being used, but let’s try to keep it a little bit controlled. :)

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are bots allowed to edit their own posts?

well they can but no spamming it/keep editing one, because the revision history blows up and then it's too big

are game bots allowed? (such as my @card-jitsu bot)

does it follow the botting rules?

pretty much

the only rule i’m confused about is the last one, since the bot sends more than one message whenever a new turn starts

Also do responses to a bots post count, because that sends a notification to the bot, and would be a bit of a pain to filter for.

don’t know what you mean?

if a bot makes a comment, and someone responds to it.

It will ping

are bots in /chat allowed? (someone else has made one, and it responds to mentions, but it also breaks bot rules by responding to /)

and someone else also says that it breaks bot rules because it does not respond to actions that send a wasteof message, because of

bots should not poll my server too hard, try using the socket.io api to only perform actions once a mention message is received. to do this, use a server side socket.io client, and listen for updateMessageCount events. when the count increases, request the unread message list and respond to new mention comments.

despite the fact that i think chat uses socket.io

chat bots are fine-ish. just make it respond only to slash commands, eg. if your bot generated random numbers, respond to /random 1-10 or something

and by chat bots, i mean only bots in /chat.

bots must be triggered by @ mentions, or wall comments on the bot account’s wall.

well how would chat bots work

okay, but…. consider this… no.

you modified it so that mee6 fits the rules. Why isn't it unbanned yet?

i can unban the mee6 account if you want. is it polling for changes, or is it using the socket.io for message count updates? i do not think the whole linking stuff would follow that model.

I have deleted the original code for MEE6 and it's only going to be a new concept that follows the rules. Please unban it

whats the history of this person and why did they get banned lmao

that’s what i’m trying to figure out :P

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What if we want to create a bridge, such as a twitter → wasteof or wasteof → mastodon?

A related question, but can I bridge an IRC server to the chat in here?

if you want sure. just if its bidirectional, please prefix your messages in a way that makes it clear what the nickname of the sender is. (eg. “[jeffalo]: hello world“)

is it okay if the bot edits a post when triggered on the bot’s wall?

bot tag pls

it might be hard to implement in a good way thougj

oh thanks, also questions:

  1. Also how to use socketio websocket client events in node

  2. Would it make sense for bots to also be able to read their wall posts because that emits a message.

  3. Can real people sign on to bot accounts and post posts?

  4. adding on to the last question, what counts as a “bot account”

Alright i figured out 1, but might I ask that the event for new message includes the message content and id and whatnot pls, that would make it much easier to use, and removes the need to check messages when you get a new one

unfortunately that would not be possible under the current architecture. but a specific mention event might still be possible.

yeah bots can read their own wall comments as triggers. that is fine.

real people can use bot accounts but it should be clear what the human is and what the bot is.

a bot account is any account controlled by automated software

So I can’t have some python script running that post every 24 hours for @holidaysbot

do i count as a bot

thank buffalo

well, there goes my plan to port nihonium to wasteof by forking the code, changing the urls, and debugging

What’s the problem?

the plan was to scrape the dash for commands

posts would get on the dash by having nihonium follow people who ping it

also it wouldn't use the api at all because it’d be a fork of regular nihonium, which doesn't use an api on account of the tbgs not having an api

Why can’t you use @ mentions to trigger Nihonium?

Also, since you’re accessing the wasteof API anyway, you don’t need to scrape the page

This makes a whole lot of sense! Nice job on this :)

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