My class had an argument about Andrew Tate today

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that guy sucks

I don’t agree with all his takes but a lot of what he says about working hard, being disciplined etc are straight facts and when ignoring the bad stuff (and I still agree with a lot of his more controversial takes when put into context) I do believe he’s a good figure to look up to.

what about the whole sex trafficking thing my friend

Innocent until proven guilty?

He seems like the kind of person who would do that honestly

what?? you’d be willing believe someone who advocates for/defends the same actions he is later accused of, against a group of people he regularly says egregious things against?? It’s not about the actual law (he hasn’t been proven guilty yet), but you definitely shouldn’t automatically believe such a person…

I don't think you've listen to Andrew Tate very much, but I'm not saying that I like him. He's mean and too aggressive. The only reason why I like him is because he has valid advice on how to get rich (since he is rich). I don't agree with most of his stuff

  1. His advice on how to get rich involves exploitation and gaining wealth at the expense of others by starting scam businesses and pyramid schemes like he did. That’s not how to teach the youth to make money and its definitely not an example of how to be responsible/productive members of a society.

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The victims in this situation are accusing him of something that aligns with his actions/words in the past and there is no reason to assume the allegations are false, so this investigation seems 100% justified, especially considering that there is already a lot of evidence against him. (ofc he shouldn’t be unfairly treated under the law, and there is no evidence that he is)

I haven't looked into the investigation, so I don't know if there is evidence or not. Therefore, I don't have an opinion on it

There is evidence (including voice recordings and text messages) and it’s definitely not a situation where you would remotely want to be seen defending him. Instead of denying allegations or addressing accusations/issues, he just claims the “matrix” is coming for him and manipulates his vulnerable young audience into not trusting the world and society.

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in my english class the teacher’s went on a rant about andrew tate before, we somehow went from something about philosophy to a 15 minute rant on andrew tate lol