I think people randomly throwing billions of numbers is so stupid, no one know if the earth is 100000 or 50000000000 years old. And as for the Big Bang Theory, that’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard, scientist were pressed with the question “How was the universe created, and when did time start?” And they just pulled an answer out of the sky. Uh…. Well…. There was this, like… Big Explosion!. It went uh…. BOOM!!. And now like.. Humans, the weather cycle, the fact that humans can reproduce, animals, the infinitely complex solar system, and Human anatomy, just exist. There is no evidence for the big bang, Like, there was nothing at all in the universe, and now we have a complex society?. The fact that humans can heal them selves when they get a bruise, and take in tiny oxygen molecules from the air around us and use it to pump blood to different part of our body that serve different purposes. People dont want to admit that there are things that they don’t know, no one can time travel, no one can be sure about anything 1000000000 supposed years ago. But peoples arogance stand in the way of that.
Anyway, I know I kinda ranted there but there is my thoughts
I know this wasn’t really about evolution, but it shows that nothing can be proven, and a lot of stuff in the modern “science” has many holes to it “Like, we were monkey, and now were human” First of all, why are some monkey, still monkeys, were they too stupid to evolve?, And they say we share “DNA” “So do butterfly and banna
Hey guys! I have a question! Based on your religious beliefs, do you believe in evolution? Why or why not?
Personally, I was raised in a scientific (non-relgious too) household. Ice always thought that evolution was just about near proven, but I've had conversations with friends who are Christian who say they don't believe in it. I'm curious to see what other people think.
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You know what, I regret not replying to this post back when it was made.
I like this post because not only can I see the thinking behind these, but those are exact ways of thinking that I use now, just with different knowledge, leading to different results. I could explain about the radiation and Hubble’s law like everyone else here did, but that would be redundant and, to me, missing the point.
To me, this speaks more about how science is taught than science itself. After learning about the Big Bang’s existence, it took 5 years for me to learn what the Big Bang actually meant, and 5 more to learn why the Big Bang is the most plausible theory we have. If I had not kept an interest in science for those 10 years, I would have agreed with this post and moved on with my life. Something similar for evolution too.
There are absolutely still holes in these theories (the Big Bang is such a different environment to the current universe that nothing we have right now works to explain it, and evolution gave rise to genetics, which I was about to say was “an entire sponge on its own”, and then I immediately realized what I was doing), but they’re not as simple as “pulling an answer from the sky”. But the teaching stops there. And I can’t blame whoever decided on that, since you really don’t need much more if you aren’t actively researching it, but it acts as if it’s the full story when it just isn’t.
How do the chromosomes migrate to the metaphase plate? Doesn’t tell me. Why did they choose the Axiom of Power Set, a seemingly random operation, for ZFC? Had to figure it out myself.
I’ll continue writing more tomorrow, but that first sentence made me remember that I was reviewing Biology and that’s what reminded me of this post.
No, actually, let me get to the main point here.
Despite me saying that scientists didn’t just “pull an answer from the sky”, I wouldn’t call you saying that they did as being wrong. You probably didn’t actively look into it, so all you had to base it on was what you were taught, and it absolutely does sound like they just pulled it from the sky in teaching.
But at the same time, why would you actively look into it? My reason isn’t that good, it basically amounts to “having something to waste my time on”, but it’s only by doing that that you see where they got the Big Bang from.
And that’s the dilemma/catch-22/whatever the correct term is, definitely something involving twos. If you don’t actively look into it, you don’t get to see why scientists say a theory is true or its inner workings. But if you do look into it, chances are you’re the scientist whose theories where others will only be taught what is and not why or how.
Alright, that’s enough typing. I think I’m done for today. I still have no idea about the phases of meiosis. I will go do that now.
How would the big bang have happened though. The most fundamental law of physics. “Energy cannot be created or destroyed”. If energy cannot be created. How is there energy in the light bulb above your head? (maybe your outside when reading this, but you get my point). What would have caused the big bang. And how did it get there? You can always ask yourself. “What about before that?”. If 1 cause the big bang. What caused 1, well, maybe 2 caused 1 to be created. But where did 2 come from. It’s a never ending loop of “How did something come from nothing”
Time for my input. Fun fact: you can find leftover radiation from the big bang. Because light travels at a certain speed and the universe is only so old, if you look far enough away, you can see leftover cosmic radiation from the origin of the universe. That's not to say it was an explosion, just an expansion.
That’s it’s?, There’s some radiation?, what does that prove, A bunch of Dyslexic Crocodiles could have shaped the earth from play-dough, and left “radition”. A bit of “radiation, doesn’t mean anything as to how the earth was created, That “radiation” could be anything, it could be from the atomic bomb, or any thing could happen if the earth is billions of year old, as people say it is
Fine, let’s say the big bang did happen for the sake of the argument, because, i’m not a science expert, but how did the big bang happen? The one question that no one can answer is how the universe was created in the first place, it’s not like the universe is a default skin, People say the big bang, but how did it happen, mef commented and said it was the “hydrogen clouds” but how did they get there, and how did the thing that created them get there. Something can’t come from nothing, and if you think that stuff was just spawned in, or just always there as a default, you might as well believe in myths and magic
My point wasn’t to disprove evolution, or prove creation (i’m a christian btw) But to prove you cant know this kind of stuff, if you go back until there was nothing in the universe, what was the first step, after all, no one knows what step the big bang is, it could be after a lot of developement
Literally look it up. I recommend a brief history of nearly everything or sapiens the graphic novel (for evolution)
Sorry, but I dont have time to listen to an 18 hour audiobook, I’m research to see if any one can answer the question “what was the first step in the universe” or “what came before the big bang”, but meanwhile, since you can’t answer that, we’ll will leave it as a mystery, which is what I set out to prove
This doesn’t show a lack that anything can be proven, it only shows that you lack knowledge on these things. Most of these topics have a substantial amount of research and information on them which is publicly available and published for anyone to access and learn. We know the age of the universe based on the cosmic microwave background and how it has shifted, and things like biology are extremely complex but also deeply researched and there is a ton of information about it. We still don’t know a lot of things, and some things are virtually impossible to entirely prove without having to make some assumptions using the rest of our knowledge on science, the origin of reality and consciousness are basically impossible to solve currently due to the fact that we don’t even know where to start. The whole reason science exists is because we want to understand how our world works, and our modern understanding of our world is thanks to centuries of work and data.
This was mainly just a reflection on the big bang theory, and how there is hardly any proof. Which just brings some people back to reality, scientist know a lot, but most people still disagree on the age of the earth, this was mainly on the big bang theory, and how it is proof that people shouldn’t just blindly believe, I’m not an expert on any of the other stuff though, so I dont know about other things, I just know 1 it is impossible to prove how to earth magically came into existence, and 2 people still argue on the age of the earth
the earth did not magically come into existence, it was formed from the rocks created from after the sun was formed from massive clouds of hydrogen gas that collapsed under its own gravity, and the pressure was so great that it started a nuclear fusion reaction and created new elements, those hydrogen clouds were remnants of the big bang https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System
people arguing about a subject does not mean that it cannot be solved, we cannot definitively prove the age of the earth due to, as you said, we don’t have a time machine, but we can make the most accurate estimation based on the data and knowledge that we have, and we have a lot of data and knowledge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Earth
I probably won’t say much more because there’s far too much to explain and I don’t really feel like continuing this argument. But your main argument seems to be that your lack of understanding of science means that science is a load of meaningless gibberish, which is simply not true. I would highly recommend that you read the articles I linked as they explain these topics far better than I can.
Those are some good points, however, to your first point, you say “the earth came from the sun being created, the sun was created, from massive hydrogen clouds. But how did those hydrogen clouds get there in the first place.
The big bang, quarks (elementary particles) came together to form protons and neutrons which then formed mostly hydrogen and some helium, if you’re going to ask what came before the Big Bang, the theory I believe is that extremely rare quantum fluctuations caused the original singularity of the universe to be spontaneously formed, as for what was before all that, no one knows because we have no information, any theory or story could work there
Anyways I’m done with this, if you have more questions look them up, I’m not a science teacher.
Ok, well, ig we both came to the conclusion, and I quote you “any theory or story could work there” which includes, some weird fluctuation stuff, or a God who created, so I guess we both have come to a resonable conclusion, Any way, I guess this marks this finished, it was good talking to you
(any way i’m bout to leave for the rest of the day) I’ll talk to you tomorrow